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PostSubject: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   25/2/2010, 21:42

Hello,

I don't know, how to do, that PCLC, counts a new Lap wen I come in Pit-stop. I have find a place when I can chose this option, but it not works with my NINCO DIGITAL.

It knows, PCLP when we are inside Pit-Stop ?

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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   25/2/2010, 22:21

Hello,

Which version of Pc Lap Counter ?
Have you tick the options "add a lap after a pit stop" ?
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   26/2/2010, 02:36

I have, the last version. I bought one week ago... 5.02 ??

Yes, I tick the option, but not works correctly... can I forgeted another thing ?

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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   26/2/2010, 11:54

i test it with version 5.04 (the latest version) and it's work fine, you should download and install version 5.04
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   26/2/2010, 16:31

I just have upgrade, and it not works...

I have the pit lane next the finish line, and if I come inside the pit lane, it not count the Lap.

Also, I note that if I finish my fuel, it counts yet, the new laps, despite it says at selection place...

Maybe... I don't have yet the 3rth COM ? Sure, it's this the problem... I thought that with the fuel info, it was enought
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   26/2/2010, 17:25

Fuel info is not enough, you need the 3rth COM Exclamation
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   19/7/2010, 23:54

Guy,

Finally I get my 3rth COM

Not it works right...

I have seen on debug than when we get 50 XY 0D, Pit in, or Pit out, is detected, but lots of times, we get 50 XY 4D, and then, nothing is detected by PCLP.

This are the type of signal I receive on PC

50 XY 4D, where X change between 1 & 5 ( line A ) and 2 & 6 (line B) - Y is always the right car number - Nothing is understood for PCLC
50 XY OD, where X change between 1 & 5 ( line A ) and 2 & 6 (line B) - Y is always the right car number - Always something is read then for PCLC

X, can be read as Pit In or Pit Out with no reason...

I have tried with different wires, long, short, shielded...

I have tried too, with diferent COM configuration 1200-7-NO-1-NO

I upgrade to 5.05d

Can you help me ?

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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   20/7/2010, 19:14

Hello,

In version 5.06 i have modified the Ninco digital interface to take care of 4D, here is the link to the pre-release of version 5.06:
http://www.pclapcounter.be/Pc_Lap_counter_506.exe
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   20/7/2010, 22:41

Thanks Guy for your quick answer. It's quite better, but something it's wrong yet.

I don't know if it's possible, but I think that this types of signals, always should be understud like a Pit In or Out, of Car N X
50 1X OD 50 1X 4D 50 5X OD 50 5X 4D

And that ones, with inversl Pit Out/It, for the same car X
50 2X OD 50 2X 4D 50 6X OD 50 6X 4D


But, I have seen, too, now, that this signals depends of our multi-line...

My first multi-line detector, always give me only two type of signals

50 1X OD and 50 2X OD

My new one, give a lots of diferents signals, like I've told you.

It don't know if it's possible, but if NINCO it change the way of how his multi-line give us the signals, we should have the possibility of change how our PCLC interpreted it.
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   20/7/2010, 22:55

50 1X OD and 50 2X OD is a good signal for PCLC
50 5X OD and 50 6X OD is not a good signal for PCLC because PCLC wait for 1X or 2X and not 5X or 6X but i can change 5X and 6X as a good one for PCLC, is that you need ?
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   21/7/2010, 01:37

I bought two NINCO DIGITAL multilane sensor. I don't understand, why one multiline sensor ( the oldest ) give me always 50 1X OD or 50 2X OD, 1 or 2 depending of the line, and the other one ( the newer ), give me , lots of diferent type signals...

Both DEBUG give me the same signals coming from COM S/F or COM Pit-Stop. It means, from my old multilane , always comes 50 1X OD and 50 2X OD, and from my new multilane sensor... lots of signals, regardless of wich COM read it.

About your proposal, and for try to make better for everybody, my be would be better if all the signals caming in port COM S/F, are taken us a LAP +, if the X car namber is in it...I don't know if it's possible...

Ex:
50 YX ZZ, give LAP+ to car NX regardless of Y or Z.
Crossing S/F, it's not important wich line we use... Is it possible ?

On Pit In/Out, is very important the line we use, then :

50 1X ZZ and 50 5X ZZ, could means Pit IN to car NX regardless of Z.
50 2X ZZ and 50 6X ZZ, could means Pit OUT to car NX regardless of Z.

I'm really new on all over that things. May be all I propose is not possible...

Thanks a lot for your work ! I spend more time trying everything to work right, than playing with the cars on it, but it's really fun !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   21/7/2010, 10:53

ok ,i made lane 5 and 6 as lane 1 and 2 and therefore it should work now.
you just need to re-download pre-release of version 5.06.

Here is the list of good message for Pit stop:
XX 1X 0D
XX 1X 4D
XX 2X 0D
XX 2X 4D

XX 5X 0D
XX 5X 4D
XX 6X 0D
XX 6X 4D
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   21/7/2010, 21:59

Ok Guy, Nice !!!

Now, I changed the multiline sensor, and I have this results on Pit Stop DEBUG:

On COM Pit In/out

Pit S DEBUG Interface NINCO DIGITAL BS

50 1X 0D Pit Out Detected for Car N X
50 2X 0D Pit In Detected for Car N X


On COM S/F

S/F DEBUG Interface NINCO DIGITAL BS

50 1X 0D Detect CAR NX
50 1X 4D Detect CAR NX
50 2X 4D Detect CAR NX
50 5X 0D Detect CAR NX
50 5X 4D Detect CAR NX
50 6X 0D Detect CAR NX
50 6X 4D Detect CAR NX

We read now on Interface NINCO DIGITAL BS, always right detection, but, nothing happens on PCLP...
No laps or pit in/out represented on it, in spite of the car is seen by the Interface...
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   22/7/2010, 00:22

Andreu wrote:

We read now on Interface NINCO DIGITAL BS, always right detection, but, nothing happens on PCLP...
No laps or pit in/out represented on it, in spite of the car is seen by the Interface...
You mean you have more problem with version 5.06 than version 5.05d ?????
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   22/7/2010, 09:34

Sorry, but since I have 5.06, two days ago, I didn't tried to play with PCLC

I've only been working with Ninco Digital Interface, because I saw on 5.05d, that my Pit Stop was not working properly

The car detection on S/F was perfect, but not on Pit In/out. Then, I discover then, that lots of diferents signals come from my second multilane, and that ones where not correctlly readed.

Now yes, I read on Ninco Digital Interface the correct signals, but that ones are not interpreted by PCLC...

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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   22/7/2010, 13:14

Please send me the debug file (in the debug window click on "save")

PS:
Stupid question: In Pc Lap Counter did you start the race ????
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   22/7/2010, 13:32

I'll send you...

I order start the race with NINCO MCU , and PCLC start the race..... three, two, one, go ..... but no car is detected....

Anyway, Ninco Digital Interface on PC, yes !!!?!?!?!
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   22/7/2010, 21:27

i test your file and i don't have any problems scratch
Are you sure that the race is started in Pc Lap Counter Question Question Question
Did you see some message in message part of Pc Lap Counter Question Question Question
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   22/7/2010, 23:29

Find it !!!!

I was not designing the race, with the correct Id Car...

I'll try longer, and I tell you !

Thanks !!!

PS: I downgrade to 5.05d, and I recive yet the changes you made for me on realese 5.06 ?!?!?!
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   22/7/2010, 23:46

Now that you have find your mistake you can try version 5.06 Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   23/7/2010, 15:03

Now !!!

It works perfect

I think that all the problem cames with the diferent signal coming from my new NINCO multiline...

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PostSubject: Re: Pit-stop Ninco Digital Lap Counter   25/8/2010, 12:03

Hi, I've been a long time out.
I appreciate a lot Andreu's and Guy's improvementes here.
We already saw last weeks this diference on several Multilane sensors of ND.

Thanks to everybody improving and helping.
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